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Poster: StrawRider Date: Nov 20, 2005 10:09am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: About forum posting

OK, before I start ranting and raving I want to thank all involved for the pleasure and honor of being able to download so many great shows. It's really been a dream come true for me and it is still continuing. Now, onto the issue: Too many GD-related threads and what to do to alleviate the 'problem' so that everyone is happy. To me, the solution seems simple. So my solution must be rubbish or it would have been implemented by now. It seems to me that a clear and large link above the message threads that reads "Grateful Dead Discussions Here" which leads participants to a separate page would be the answer.

I've posted elsewhere (at DeadNet and the GD Forum) but this is the place where the goodies come from. Plus, as midnight sun has pointed out, it's been rewarding and educational and fun to read the posts and reviews of the regulars here. I would hate to move onto some other forum and lose some folks on the way.

If the solution I just presented cannot be handled by the Archive then perhaps if we fellow deadheads agree to set-up shop somewhere, would the Archive consider a link from here to it? It certainly would help keep the connections we've all made stay together. There has to be some way in which the Dead Community can resolve this issue since there are so many devoted, gifted and intelligent people that make it all happen.

So how about it? Can one band get its own discussion page or does that just lead to everyone wanting their own 'page two'? I don't think so. I think if the Dead fans had a special link page, the rest of the fans of other bands would be more than happy with the front page of the discussions to have as their own.

This post was modified by StrawRider on 2005-11-20 18:09:35

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 20, 2005 9:33pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: About forum posting

StrawRider,

I think that's a great idea and I would support it, even though I maintain that there is nothing at all wrong with people who don't want or are sick of Dead postings to simply ignore them and generate new posts on different topics or respond to other posts on topics that do interest them.

When I see posts dealing with intricate technical issues I have no interest in, I don't get annoyed or upset that people are having "insider" discussions I don't feel compelled to penetrate, I just shrug and move on.

I really can't believe this has become such a controversy, but if it wouldn't be too much work for the folks who run this excellent site to provide a link to a separate Dead forum where us "crazy people" can be safely caged with our discussions of the best version of "Mississippi Half Step", (11-6-77, Broome County, BTW ;-)...then fine, i'm all for it, and promise not to bother those who are fed up with us ever again.

GC

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Poster: StrawRider Date: Nov 21, 2005 4:11am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: About forum posting

Great, thanks to you both for responding. I was beginning to wonder if anyone was going to bother. Now, hopefully, Diana or some other Archive moderator will also see this and respond. I think this could be a good compromise on our part and if the folks at the Archive can help us out with either a separate web page for our discussions or simply a link to another GD message board site then we'll be on our way to making things easier for everybody.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 21, 2005 4:37am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: About forum posting

personally, i simply agree with Diana's supposition that moderation is the key. I think we deadheads have just about run the gamut on "best of's" anyways. Moderation and running a search before posting seems to be the best way with regard to the music held on the Archive.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Nov 21, 2005 5:59am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: About forum posting

personally, i simply agree with Diana's supposition that moderation is the key.

I think it's more than a supposition...keep in mind that archive.org as a whole is a MUCH larger project than just the live music area, and to ask for the construction of a separate message board for one band's discussions may be a bit far down on the list of projects for the architects to take on.

The problem with recommendation threads is that they get very long very quickly, especially for bands that have 3000 shows on the site, and they eventually push several threads at a time off the bottom of the page.

The fact that a moderator is suggesting moderation seems to be a subtle hint that it's not just a whim that's come to her out of the blue, but more of a systemic recommendation to diversify the confab on the one board dedicated to this huge collection.

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Poster: StrawRider Date: Nov 21, 2005 6:44am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: About forum posting

Thanks for your thoughts:
to ask for the construction of a separate message board for one band's discussions may be a bit far down on the list of projects for the architects to take on.

That's why I came up with an alternative solution to that first idea. The alternative is a link away from the Archive.

Building a link to another website where GD-related posts are not only welcomed but encouraged is a far easier task for the Archive architects. In this way the glut of GD-related posts would no longer need to be moderated. Nor would the deadheads need to post in moderation, judging whether or not to post. The indulgent GD posts could be elsewhere while the technical posts about a GD show would still be here.

I'm just trying to work it out so all of us can get along here while also trying to make so the Archive deadheads can stick together...

This post was modified by StrawRider on 2005-11-21 14:44:20

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Nov 21, 2005 6:54am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: About forum posting

I missed the link suggestion...my bad. Definitely agree that it would be a better solution than an entire sub-forum!

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Nov 21, 2005 8:46am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: About forum posting

As a fan of the dead i've always used my trusty deadbase books.All Deadbase books contain the best of this the longest that.The best brent,jerry etc..... All my downloads from the archive have been suggestion's from deadbase 8-27-72,fall 73 shows.fillmore 69 etc....plus you don't have to wait for any reply from another poster.I have not come across any post's here that i didn't see in deadbase.The grateful dead flew under the radar so shall we.Just a thought.p.s. It'll keep diana happy and less stressful dealing with post you can read in a book because we all love diana.

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Poster: StrawRider Date: Nov 21, 2005 12:01pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: About forum posting

I hear ya, tigerbolt.
Although flying below the radar can keep you from getting above the clouds. ;^)

DeadNet
GD Forum
DeadBase

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Poster: StrawRider Date: Nov 21, 2005 4:51am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: About forum posting

I agree that the "best of" posts have becoming somewhat annoying and yes, those people should use the search function first if they don't have the time to delve into the Archive like they should....but...
I think the Archive message board could be better served if we deadheads posted elsewhere about any GD topics that come up. That's my opinion.